Export Midi From Garageband Ipad

  1. How To Export Midi From Garageband Ipad
  2. Export Midi From Garageband Ipad Free
  3. Import Midi Garageband Ios
  4. Export Midi From Garageband Ipad To Mac

Sep 08, 2019  At the time I needed it, I could not find any guide or video that simply explains how to open a GarageBand iOS project (iPhone/iPad) on Logic Pro or GarageBand. For those who like to work with the Garageband app and would like to export a project to one of the Mac music DAW, the Garageband or Logic Pro, here’s the simplest method to do it.

What is Audiobus? — Audiobus isan award-winning music app for iPhone and iPad which lets you useyour other music apps together. Chain effects on your favouritesynth, run the output of apps or Audio Units into an app likeGarageBand or Loopy, or select a different audio interface outputfor each app. Route MIDI between apps — drive asynth from a MIDI sequencer, or add an arpeggiator to your MIDIkeyboard — or sync with your external MIDI gear.And control your entire setup from a MIDI controller.

  • Sep 08, 2019 At the time I needed it, I could not find any guide or video that simply explains how to open a GarageBand iOS project (iPhone/iPad) on Logic Pro or GarageBand. For those who like to work with the Garageband app and would like to export a project to one of the Mac music DAW, the Garageband or Logic Pro, here’s the simplest method to do it.
  • Apr 03, 2011 in this tutorial, OBEDIA tutor Brian shows you how to export your song from Apple's Garageband app on the iPad. How to export your song from Garageband on the iPad to your computer to edit in.
  • Using a Mac, you can import a GarageBand song that was created on another iPad or iPhone. Because GarageBand for Mac offers additional features and functionality not found in GarageBand for iPad, you can’t import a GarageBand for Mac song to GarageBand for iPad. Connect your iPad to your Mac.
  • Script automates midi export. The GB2MIDI script automates the process of making.aif files the same.mid files and even works by dragging and dropping. Dragging and dropping segments into the loop area only works with up to 45 bars (180 beats). In order to convert longer tracks to loops, you have to go into Garageband via the menu: Edit Add to loop library.
Download on the App Store

Audiobus is the app that makes the rest of your setup better.

edited January 2018 in Support and Feedback

Do we need Midiflow to send MIDI from GeoShred and other apps into GarageBand or will Audiobus 3 alone is enough to send MIDI into GB? I mean to record MIDI from another app into GB - not audio.

TIA

Comments

  • Also, if I need to buy Midiflow, is it the Midiflow app or 'Midiflow for Audiobus 3' app?

  • Garageband realizes any Midi-data that‘s currently being sent on the device, you don‘t need any other App. The downside to this is, ALL channels are being received inside Garageband. If your Midisender has channel-control (enable/disable channels), that‘s the only way to have only some (or only one) Midichannel play in GB. Midiflow also doesn‘t help this, because GB doesn‘t show up as a destination.. . Gestrument for example gives you the option of NOT sending on channels and works nicely with GB.
    Cheers, t

  • @animal said:
    Gestrument for example gives you the option of NOT sending on channels and works nicely with GB.
    Cheers, t

    Great tip . did not think about gestrument

  • edited January 2018

    @powerobject said:
    Also, if I need to buy Midiflow, is it the Midiflow app or 'Midiflow for Audiobus 3' app?

    The Midiflow app. Midiflow for AB3 isn't actually an app; it's a bundle of selected plugins for AB3 users which replicate or extend the functionality of the app, but only in AB3, which you don't need for the all-in-one app. (But Tobias is right that it's not going to help with GB.)

  • edited January 2018

    I have Audiobus 2 that can only record Audio in the host/destination app and not MIDI. IAA records as audio too and not as MIDI. Only Audio Units record as MIDI. So, the new Audiobus 3 alone with MIDI support is not going to be enough and I need a bridging app like the Midiflow?

    Still not clear with Audiobus 3's new MIDI support feature and what it does if it cannot connect 2 apps and if it adds any value to upgrade. The Midiflow videos do not show the standalone Midiflow app and Audiobus 3 working together and I thought that's because AB 3 with MIDI support does it all (they show only the 'Midiflow for AB bundle of apps' and Audiobus 3 working together).

    Just found this video on how to connect GeoShred and GarageBand using Midiflow without AB:

  • @powerobject said:
    Do we need Midiflow to send MIDI from GeoShred and other apps into GarageBand or will Audiobus 3 alone is enough to send MIDI into GB? I mean to record MIDI from another app into GB - not audio.

    TIA

    Hello , i can confirm that Midiflow standalone app works perfectly with Garageband and geoshred.

    Infact there is even a garageband preset on geoshred

  • edited January 2018

    What is the purpose of Audiobus 3's new MIDI support feature they are boasting of? Can it record MIDI in the host app like Midiflow does? If AB 3 can do this, I would rather upgrade to AB 3 instead of buying Midiflow. Not sure why AB team is not responding to this simple question.

  • Hi @powerobject! I'll let Jakob take this one:

    AB 3 MIDI is all about routing MIDI from one place to another, like AB 2 does for audio. For apps that go in the audio output slot, like GarageBand, AB 3 MIDI needs to be supported by the app in question; here's a list of apps that do that. Right now, GarageBand isn't one of them, though - that's something the GarageBand team need to do.

    So to answer your question: until GarageBand supports AB 3 MIDI, AB 3's not going to help you in this particular endeavour.

  • When controlling GB with GeoShred, is there a way to disable the volume swells when moving the finger on the x axis within a fret? I’m using GeoShred to control GarageBand’s piano, and so any kind of aftertouch expression is unwanted. But I can’t find a place in GS to disable the x axis volume expression. I already have GS set to Piano articulation and Poly play mode. Pitch bends are disabled but not aftertouch volume. I’m getting a chaos of volume fluctuations depending on whether my finger moves slightly on the fret.

  • edited March 2018

    Midiflow adapter for AB3 also works and isn’t expensive. All you have to do is choosing your app of choice in AB3 midi in and midiflow adapter in AB3 midi out. Works perfectly.
    Midiflow adapter also works inside AUM with midi routing for apps that are not AB3 compatible.

  • @JonLewis said:
    When controlling GB with GeoShred, is there a way to disable the volume swells when moving the finger on the x axis within a fret? I’m using GeoShred to control GarageBand’s piano, and so any kind of aftertouch expression is unwanted. But I can’t find a place in GS to disable the x axis volume expression. I already have GS set to Piano articulation and Poly play mode. Pitch bends are disabled but not aftertouch volume. I’m getting a chaos of volume fluctuations depending on whether my finger moves slightly on the fret.

    Settings > Disable Key Y Touch might do it.

  • That does do it, thanks. Regrettably, I lose the vertical axis = velocity in the bargain, which IS really good for piano. But that can be adjusted per note in GB anyway.

What is Audiobus? — Audiobus isan award-winning music app for iPhone and iPad which lets you useyour other music apps together. Chain effects on your favouritesynth, run the output of apps or Audio Units into an app likeGarageBand or Loopy, or select a different audio interface outputfor each app. Route MIDI between apps — drive asynth from a MIDI sequencer, or add an arpeggiator to your MIDIkeyboard — or sync with your external MIDI gear.And control your entire setup from a MIDI controller.

Download on the App Store

Audiobus is the app that makes the rest of your setup better.

How To Export Midi From Garageband Ipad

in General App Discussion

I now believe it's possible to do this (unless everyone else already knew how to do it and I just couldn't find it).

Export

Here's what's I've found so far:

Exporting midi from GB on iOS is something heard of lots of people wanting to do, including myself. So I ask, why should it be difficult? Why isn’t a feature?

Export Midi From Garageband Ipad Free

But since it’s not a feature, why can’t we just reach in and take it for ourselves by force if we must?

Import Midi Garageband Ios

I may be missing it but I haven't found the technique yet so I've started to crack things open just a bit. Here's what we can see inside..

..continued on a blog page so I could easily upload related files:
https://groundjuggling.wordpress.com/export-midi-from-ios-garage-band-projects

Comments

Export Midi From Garageband Ipad To Mac

  • I use the RouteMidi plugin to get midi out from regular midi tracks in GB. It doesn’t work for the smart instruments or drummers or drum sequencer though.
    It basically works on the piano/kb type of tracks. Works good for those.

  • I don't know much about the smart instruments other than to my ear, the violin sounds horrible and airy compared to apps like ThumbJam.

    However, even if they don't rely on midi internally, I wonder if there could be some sort or mapping that could be useful (for the instruments that sound good).

  • @SevenSystems really has found a niche. Comparing many of the DAWs

    Cubasis
    GarageBand
    Gadget

    None of them export Midi!!!

    WHY!!!!

  • Doesn’t Cubasis export MIDI? Are you sure?

    Auria Pro does, the option is located in the Menu dialog.

  • @theconnactic said:
    Doesn’t Cubasis export MIDI? Are you sure?

    Auria Pro does, the option is located in the Menu dialog.

    @theconnactic said:
    Doesn’t Cubasis export MIDI? Are you sure?

    Auria Pro does, the option is located in the Menu dialog.

    If it does there’s no option in the share menu. So I’m afraid NOT!

  • @LucidMusicInc said:
    @SevenSystems really has found a niche. Comparing many of the DAWs

    Cubasis
    GarageBand
    Gadget

    None of them export Midi!!!

    WHY!!!!

    Gadget can export midi

    Cubasis can too

    After creating the mixdown just share it.

  • @White said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:
    @SevenSystems really has found a niche. Comparing many of the DAWs

    Cubasis
    GarageBand
    Gadget

    None of them export Midi!!!

    WHY!!!!

    Gadget can export midi

    Cubasis can too

    After creating the mixdown just share it.

    Awesome sauce!

  • @CracklePot said:
    I use the RouteMidi plugin to get midi out from regular midi tracks in GB. It doesn’t work for the smart instruments or drummers or drum sequencer though.
    It basically works on the piano/kb type of tracks. Works good for those.

    This app fucks up Garagebands internal timing.. Try and use the Arpeggiator, ba-bow.

    Just a FYI for anyone else thinking of buying it!

  • @BroCoast said:

    @CracklePot said:
    I use the RouteMidi plugin to get midi out from regular midi tracks in GB. It doesn’t work for the smart instruments or drummers or drum sequencer though.
    It basically works on the piano/kb type of tracks. Works good for those.

    This app fucks up Garagebands internal timing.. Try and use the Arpeggiator, ba-bow.

    Just a FYI for anyone else thinking of buying it!

    Just tried it.
    What is ba-bow?
    Seems to work fine for me, but I am just going by ear.
    Haven’t looked closely for jitter and whatnot.

  • @CracklePot said:

    @BroCoast said:

    @CracklePot said:
    I use the RouteMidi plugin to get midi out from regular midi tracks in GB. It doesn’t work for the smart instruments or drummers or drum sequencer though.
    It basically works on the piano/kb type of tracks. Works good for those.

    This app fucks up Garagebands internal timing.. Try and use the Arpeggiator, ba-bow.

    Just a FYI for anyone else thinking of buying it!

    Just tried it.
    What is ba-bow?
    Seems to work fine for me, but I am just going by ear.
    Haven’t looked closely for jitter and whatnot.

    My bad humour!

    Hmm, I wonder why it messes up GB for me? A few other people have said the same thing.

    It was changing 8th notes to triplets!

  • RouteMIDI plugin is useful. When using it with Gadget for example, midi timing while just playing/monitor is usable. But when you want to record Gadget IAA on an audio track, there will be some important offset and you will find that midi timing is also wrong. So here is the trick: record in real-time GB RouteMIDI output in Gadget sequencer with some quantize, then export to audio from Gadget and import in GarageBand for your mixdowns. Timing will be perfect. This plugin is useful when you want to sequence everything in GB.

  • edited November 2018

    Can Midiflow be used to export MIDI out of GB into Cubasis without using a computer? How? I don't see GB as in its lists. There are videos on Midiflow for Audiobus, etc but none on just Midiflow router app.

  • edited November 2018

    @CracklePot said:
    I use the RouteMidi plugin to get midi out from regular midi tracks in GB. It doesn’t work for the smart instruments or drummers or drum sequencer though.
    It basically works on the piano/kb type of tracks. Works good for those.

    I've both RouteMIDI and Midiflow but couldn't figure out how to get MIDI out of GB into Cubasis. I tried RouteMIDI as AU in GB:

    set BG Audio in both apps => On
    GB > Use with Music Apps => On
    GB > Send MIDI Clock => On
    GB > added RouteMIDI as an AU track
    GB > RouteMIDI > set MIDI Out to Cubasis
    matched channels in both apps
    played back the GB project
    tapped Record in Cubasis

    It records just empty events in Cubasis with no notes inside them. How did you export MIDI out of GB? There are no videos on how to use these apps.

  • @MobileMusic said:

    @CracklePot said:
    I use the RouteMidi plugin to get midi out from regular midi tracks in GB. It doesn’t work for the smart instruments or drummers or drum sequencer though.
    It basically works on the piano/kb type of tracks. Works good for those.

    I've both RouteMIDI and Midiflow but couldn't figure out how to get MIDI out of GB into Cubasis. I tried RouteMIDI as AU in GB:

    set BG Audio in both apps => On
    GB > Use with Music Apps => On
    GB > Send MIDI Clock => On
    GB > added RouteMIDI as an AU track
    GB > RouteMIDI > set MIDI Out to Cubasis
    matched channels in both apps
    played back the GB project
    tapped Record in Cubasis

    It records just empty events in Cubasis with no notes inside them. How did you export MIDI out of GB? There are no videos on how to use these apps.

    It is working for me. You should hear Cubasis playing back the midi when GB is playing, even before you record.
    Do you have midi data on the track in GB that has RouteMidi loaded on it? I usually record in GB with a piano/kb instrument track to get the midi. Then I make a new track with RouteMidi and copy the midi information to it. It will send that out to your other apps.

  • @CracklePot said:

    @MobileMusic said:

    @CracklePot said:
    I use the RouteMidi plugin to get midi out from regular midi tracks in GB. It doesn’t work for the smart instruments or drummers or drum sequencer though.
    It basically works on the piano/kb type of tracks. Works good for those.

    I've both RouteMIDI and Midiflow but couldn't figure out how to get MIDI out of GB into Cubasis. I tried RouteMIDI as AU in GB:

    set BG Audio in both apps => On
    GB > Use with Music Apps => On
    GB > Send MIDI Clock => On
    GB > added RouteMIDI as an AU track
    GB > RouteMIDI > set MIDI Out to Cubasis
    matched channels in both apps
    played back the GB project
    tapped Record in Cubasis

    It records just empty events in Cubasis with no notes inside them. How did you export MIDI out of GB? There are no videos on how to use these apps.

    It is working for me. You should hear Cubasis playing back the midi when GB is playing, even before you record.
    Do you have midi data on the track in GB that has RouteMidi loaded on it? I usually record in GB with a piano/kb instrument track to get the midi. Then I make a new track with RouteMidi and copy the midi information to it. It will send that out to your other apps.

    LOL, I was thinking it would export the entire project as a single track. I just copied the MIDI data to the RouteMIDI's track and it worked Thanks!

  • I have just emailed the route midi dev about the GB timing issue. I am guessing if it hasn’t been fixed it can’t.

    So I don’t really see the use of Route Midi if the timing is all out. #refundtime

  • @topaz said:
    I have just emailed the route midi dev about the GB timing issue. I am guessing if it hasn’t been fixed it can’t.

    So I don’t really see the use of Route Midi if the timing is all out. #refundtime

    It's fixed, at least the last few times I have used it.

  • edited August 2019

    This draft is from last year - posted now

    @CracklePot said:
    @MobileMusic
    Awesome.
    You’re welcome.
    Garageband ipad add track.

    Holy crap, Apple! They did it again!!

    Since it doesn't work with Smart Instruments, Live Loops, Drummer, etc to export MIDI - I thought I was smart -

    I went into the Piano Roll of a Smart Instrument
    selected all MIDI notes and copied to clipboard
    went into the Piano Roll of an empty region on the RouteMIDI AU track
    and Pasted the MIDI notes !!!!! (not )

    WHERE IS THE PASTE OPTION, Apple??? Did they forget it? They are just MIDI data right - just notes and length - how does it matter if I want to paste them into any instrument's MIDI region using 'Piano Roll'? If I just want to yank out the performance part of it (MIDI data), I could apply any instrument to the track but there is no Paste option in the Piano Roll.

    This should work even with Drummer, etc - they are all just MIDI data - I should be able to copy/paste that data into any other track - it's just data, right? Paste option is available only for the same track's copied MIDI notes.

  • @MobileMusic said:
    This draft is from last year - posted now

    @CracklePot said:
    @MobileMusic
    Awesome.
    You’re welcome.

    Holy crap, Apple! They did it again!!

    Since it doesn't work with Smart Instruments, Live Loops, Drummer, etc to export MIDI - I thought I was smart -

    I went into the Piano Roll of a Smart Instrument
    selected all MIDI notes and copied to clipboard
    went into the Piano Roll of an empty region on the RouteMIDI AU track
    and Pasted the MIDI notes !!!!! (not )

    WHERE IS THE PASTE OPTION, Apple??? Did they forget it? They are just MIDI data right - just notes and length - how does it matter if I want to paste them into any instrument's MIDI region using 'Piano Roll'? If I just want to yank out the performance part of it (MIDI data), I could apply any instrument to the track but there is no Paste option in the Piano Roll.

    This should work even with Drummer, etc - they are all just MIDI data - I should be able to copy/paste that data into any other track - it's just data, right? Paste option is available only for the same track's copied MIDI notes.

    Yeah I found the same a year ago.
    That’s why I specifically recommended using the piano/keyboard instrument to create the Midi data, and not a Smart Instrument.
    It seems that only the piano in GB is using general Midi, and everything else uses some GB data format or Audio.
    Sorry if I caused you any confusion.

  • edited August 2019

    @CracklePot said:

    @MobileMusic said:
    This draft is from last year - posted now

    @CracklePot said:
    @MobileMusic
    Awesome.
    You’re welcome.

    Holy crap, Apple! They did it again!!

    Since it doesn't work with Smart Instruments, Live Loops, Drummer, etc to export MIDI - I thought I was smart -

    I went into the Piano Roll of a Smart Instrument
    selected all MIDI notes and copied to clipboard
    went into the Piano Roll of an empty region on the RouteMIDI AU track
    and Pasted the MIDI notes !!!!! (not )

    WHERE IS THE PASTE OPTION, Apple??? Did they forget it? They are just MIDI data right - just notes and length - how does it matter if I want to paste them into any instrument's MIDI region using 'Piano Roll'? If I just want to yank out the performance part of it (MIDI data), I could apply any instrument to the track but there is no Paste option in the Piano Roll.

    This should work even with Drummer, etc - they are all just MIDI data - I should be able to copy/paste that data into any other track - it's just data, right? Paste option is available only for the same track's copied MIDI notes.

    Yeah I found the same a year ago.
    That’s why I specifically recommended using the piano/keyboard instrument to create the Midi data, and not a Smart Instrument.
    It seems that only the piano in GB is using general Midi, and everything else uses some GB data format or Audio.
    Sorry if I caused you any confusion.

    It doesn’t seem like a proprietary data format but just that the Paste option is missing! They look like any other MIDI data - editable, drawable, deletable, copy-able but not paste-able across instruments

    I tried Smart Instrument to Piano and Piano to Smart instrument - Paste option is missing either way even though it is allowing to copy data. Paste is possible only within the same instrument. This is dumb on Apple’s part. If I can copy paste data from one instrument into another, what is Apple going to lose? Maybe it would sound different based on target instrument (that’s how MIDI data works) but that’s my problem.

  • Nope, timing is still way off and state not saved.

    @BroCoast said:

    @topaz said:
    I have just emailed the route midi dev about the GB timing issue. I am guessing if it hasn’t been fixed it can’t.

    So I don’t really see the use of Route Midi if the timing is all out. #refundtime

    It's fixed, at least the last few times I have used it.

    @BroCoast said:

    @topaz said:
    I have just emailed the route midi dev about the GB timing issue. I am guessing if it hasn’t been fixed it can’t.

    So I don’t really see the use of Route Midi if the timing is all out. #refundtime

    It's fixed, at least the last few times I have used it.

  • @topaz said:
    Nope, timing is still way off and state not saved.

    @BroCoast said:

    @topaz said:
    I have just emailed the route midi dev about the GB timing issue. I am guessing if it hasn’t been fixed it can’t.

    So I don’t really see the use of Route Midi if the timing is all out. #refundtime

    It's fixed, at least the last few times I have used it.

    @BroCoast said:

    @topaz said:
    I have just emailed the route midi dev about the GB timing issue. I am guessing if it hasn’t been fixed it can’t.

    So I don’t really see the use of Route Midi if the timing is all out. #refundtime

    It's fixed, at least the last few times I have used it.

    Hmm, well I was able to get MIDI out of Garageband via MIDI clock sync to Xequence 2 with RouteMIDI a few weeks ago.

    I do remember RouteMIDI breaking the timing in Garageband a few times back when I first bought it, but since I last uninstalled/reinstalled it's been fine.

  • @MobileMusic said:

    @CracklePot said:

    @MobileMusic said:
    This draft is from last year - posted now

    @CracklePot said:
    @MobileMusic
    Awesome.
    You’re welcome.

    Holy crap, Apple! They did it again!!

    Since it doesn't work with Smart Instruments, Live Loops, Drummer, etc to export MIDI - I thought I was smart -

    I went into the Piano Roll of a Smart Instrument
    selected all MIDI notes and copied to clipboard
    went into the Piano Roll of an empty region on the RouteMIDI AU track
    and Pasted the MIDI notes !!!!! (not )

    WHERE IS THE PASTE OPTION, Apple??? Did they forget it? They are just MIDI data right - just notes and length - how does it matter if I want to paste them into any instrument's MIDI region using 'Piano Roll'? If I just want to yank out the performance part of it (MIDI data), I could apply any instrument to the track but there is no Paste option in the Piano Roll.

    This should work even with Drummer, etc - they are all just MIDI data - I should be able to copy/paste that data into any other track - it's just data, right? Paste option is available only for the same track's copied MIDI notes.

    Yeah I found the same a year ago.
    That’s why I specifically recommended using the piano/keyboard instrument to create the Midi data, and not a Smart Instrument.
    It seems that only the piano in GB is using general Midi, and everything else uses some GB data format or Audio.
    Sorry if I caused you any confusion.

    It doesn’t seem like a proprietary data format but just that the Paste option is missing! They look like any other MIDI data - editable, drawable, deletable, copy-able but not paste-able across instruments

    I tried Smart Instrument to Piano and Piano to Smart instrument - Paste option is missing either way even though it is allowing to copy data. Paste is possible only within the same instrument. This is dumb on Apple’s part. If I can copy paste data from one instrument into another, what is Apple going to lose? Maybe it would sound different based on target instrument (that’s how MIDI data works) but that’s my problem.

    Yeah, I totally agree with you here.
    I was just giving Apple the benefit of the doubt, but it just as likely that they are just being weirdly restrictive.

    To make it more confusing, most of the Smart Instruments can be selected as the sound presets on the Piano, and sound pretty much the same when played with Midi data.

  • Just tried again after reinstall, timing is way out.

  • @topaz said:
    Just tried again after reinstall, timing is way out.

    I did a little testing as well.
    I find that the main problem is everything is early when you record the audio back into GB, but even when you try to line up the audio with the original midi, there seems to be jitter in the timing in the recorded audio.

    If you aren’t using any external Midi FX processing, but just playing an instrument in AUM and recording audio back into GB, you could just load the instrument directly in GB, copy the Midi to its track, and use the merge tracks function to freeze the instrument track.

  • Will test but it would be nice if the dev could fix the save state as well as some kind of offset.

  • @MobileMusic said:

    @CracklePot said:

    @MobileMusic said:
    This draft is from last year - posted now

    @CracklePot said:
    @MobileMusic
    Awesome.
    You’re welcome.

    Holy crap, Apple! They did it again!!

    Since it doesn't work with Smart Instruments, Live Loops, Drummer, etc to export MIDI - I thought I was smart -

    I went into the Piano Roll of a Smart Instrument
    selected all MIDI notes and copied to clipboard
    went into the Piano Roll of an empty region on the RouteMIDI AU track
    and Pasted the MIDI notes !!!!! (not )

    WHERE IS THE PASTE OPTION, Apple??? Did they forget it? They are just MIDI data right - just notes and length - how does it matter if I want to paste them into any instrument's MIDI region using 'Piano Roll'? If I just want to yank out the performance part of it (MIDI data), I could apply any instrument to the track but there is no Paste option in the Piano Roll.

    This should work even with Drummer, etc - they are all just MIDI data - I should be able to copy/paste that data into any other track - it's just data, right? Paste option is available only for the same track's copied MIDI notes.

    Yeah I found the same a year ago.
    That’s why I specifically recommended using the piano/keyboard instrument to create the Midi data, and not a Smart Instrument.
    It seems that only the piano in GB is using general Midi, and everything else uses some GB data format or Audio.
    Sorry if I caused you any confusion.

    It doesn’t seem like a proprietary data format but just that the Paste option is missing! They look like any other MIDI data - editable, drawable, deletable, copy-able but not paste-able across instruments

    I tried Smart Instrument to Piano and Piano to Smart instrument - Paste option is missing either way even though it is allowing to copy data. Paste is possible only within the same instrument. This is dumb on Apple’s part. If I can copy paste data from one instrument into another, what is Apple going to lose? Maybe it would sound different based on target instrument (that’s how MIDI data works) but that’s my problem.

    For the smart instrument, all you need to do is always use the keyboard section, instead of the others for your instruments. All the sounds are there, so you can reuse the MIDI information if you create another keyboard layer.